Legionaries' General Chapter: interview with Card. De Paolis
(Vatican Radio) The Extraordinary General Chapter of the Legionaries of Christ begins
its working sessions on Thursday, under the guidance of the Pontifical Delegate to
the Legion, Cardinal Velasio De Paolis. The Chapter has been called with a view to
helping the Legion reform and renew itself in the wake of revelations regarding the
double-life led by the congregation's deceased founder, Fr. Marcial Maciel. Following
a Vatican investigation into Fr Maciel’s life and conduct as founder and leader of
the congregation, Pope Benedict XVI in 2006 stripped the priest of his leadership
role and ordered him to a life of prayer and penitence.
Cardinal Paolis granted
an interview to the Vatican Radio’s Director-General, Fr. Federico Lombardi, SJ. The
purpose of the interview was to present the progress made during the three and a half
years of Card. De Paolis’ term as Delegate, in order more fully to understand what
went into preparations for the Chapter, what are its goals and what are the expectations
for it.
Below, please find a translation of the full text of the interview,
preceded by Fr Lombardi, SJ's synopsis.
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The extraordinary
Chapter of the Legionaries of Christ: a journey of profound renewal
Interview
of Fr. F. Lombardi with the Papal Delegate, Cardinal Velasio de Paolis, on the preparation
outlook for the Chapter
On the occasion of the opening of the Extraordinary
Chapter of the Legionaries of Christ, Cardinal De Paolis, Pontifical Delegate, agreed
to grant an in-depth interview to Fr. F. Lombardi for Vatican Radio. The purpose of
the interview was to present the progress made during the three and a half years of
the mandate of the Delegate and his team of collaborators, in order to understand
fully what has been done to prepare for the Chapter, and what are its goals and expectations.
First
of all Card. De Paolis says that his mandate had been preceded by the Apostolic Visitation,
which had dealt with the story of the founder and ended with a severe judgment on
his work (cf. Bulletin of the Holy See Press Office, 1-5-2010). The task of the Delegate,
appointed by Pope Benedict XVI (cf. Bulletin 9.7.2010), was therefore rather to guide
the renewal of the Legion of Christ, relying on genuine religious commitment of the
majority of its members. The renewal required mainly the revision of the Constitutions
and changing the superiors, but to be deep and lasting it had to involve as many members
of the Legion as possible in the various provinces and communities. Regarding the
Constitutions, the key points of the review concerned authority and its exercise in
government and life of the religious Congregation. Also very important was the
reflection on the “patrimony of the Institute;” that is, the institutional elements
that characterize and identify it in its spiritual and ecclesial reality. This outlines
a vocation to live the Mystery of Jesus, who announces the Kingdom, with the typical
spirituality of the kingship of Christ, who reigns from the Cross, accompanied by
a strong Eucharistic and Marian devotion, as well as an apostolic orientation. This
vocation is divided into specific forms for religious priests, consecrated persons
and laity. In this regard, it is very important to see the Legion (consisting of
religious priests) not as an isolated reality, but inserted—in a manner to be further
defined—in the broader context of the greater Regnum Christi Movement. The Chapter
that has just opened is divided into three main parts. First of all, an “examination
of conscience” about the past, with a review of the progress made, not without a penitential
dimension; then the appointment of new superiors and finally the work on the revision
of the Constitutions. It should be noted that in any case the new text of the Constitutions
must still be presented to the Pope for a definitive approval. The passage of the
pontificate which took place this year has not delayed the journey under way, because
Pope Francis was promptly informed and has approved its continuation, including the
convening of the Chapter. The chapter can be confidently expected to produce its desired
results.
(The full text of the interview has been published in Italian on the
website of Vatican Radio, January 9, at 12 pm)
Fr. Federico
Lombardi’s interview to Card. Velasio De Paolis
Q.—Your Eminence, the General
Chapter for the Legionaries of Christ begins on January 8. It represents the next
and fundamental step on the long journey of renewal that you led on behalf of the
Holy Father. Would you like to summarize briefly the steps and the main events of
this journey of preparation, from your appointment up to the Chapter?
A.—I
would first of all like to point out that this path is not the beginning of the story
of the Legion and Regnum Christi, but it is one stage of it. The first stage is the
story of the Founder; the second is the visitation by the five bishops sent by the
Holy Father to get to know this reality; and the third stage, in fact, is the appointment
of the papal delegate. It is important to emphasize this. Why? Because the visitation
of the five Apostolic Visitators presented the result of a reflection, an evaluation
and also a consideration for the future. When the Holy Father appointed the Papal
Delegate, he had already issued a severe judgment regarding the actions of the Legion’s
founder in the Official Bulletin. However, this judgment was not so severe as to destroy
the congregation: if the Pope appoints a Delegate, he is implicitly denying that a
substantially negative judgment of the Legion itself should be made. At the beginning
of the bull of appointment, he says, “There are a large number of priests who are
zealous and committed to the path of holiness.” Since there was this assumption of
trust, this step—which began with the appointment of the Pontifical Delegate—was rather
a positive appointment. In other words, he wanted to restart the journey alongside
the Legionaries, so as to guide them through a period of reflection and renewal—which
was also penitential—and so as to review their charism, to rewrite their Constitutions
and then to resume their positive position within the Church. This is necessary to
say, because the investigation regarding the Founder was considered, in some way,
closed; even the stage of visitations to various places was considered closed. It
was now necessary to work within the institute, in order to make people think and
to help them overcome their difficulties. And this was precisely our task. The Pope
says that, among many tasks, the main one is the revision of the constitutions. They
had constitutions which had not been drawn up according to the criteria of the post-conciliar
period, but rather using the traditional criteria: it was a very long, heavy, even
cumbersome text, in which the constitutional norms were indistinguishable from others.
At the disciplinary level, there was a discernible mentality that did not distinguish
the gradualness of the law, nor the importance of certain laws, and thus the “substance”
of the discipline was indistinguishable from other rules that are useful—perhaps even
necessary—but not “characteristic” of a congregation. There was a “sea” of norms,
in which the charism itself was also watered down, or at least weakened, so as to
make it difficult to remain in focus. This was the main task.
Q. And how did
you go about dealing with the situation, together with your team of collaborators? A.
It started just by reminding the Legionaries what the Visitators said, because we
had to start from there. In fact we presented the observations that the Visitators
had made in several conferences to all those who were here in Rome. (In Rome there
were 400-500 students and priests.) They recorded these lectures, which were then
sent to the entire Legion, as well as to Regnum Christi, which is broader than the
Legion. When we started, there was—you could say—almost a division into two groups:
the first one emphasized the fact that the government of the institute was tainted.
In some way, this group could not hope at all for anything new. There was another
group, however, that could not grasp the news, because they saw almost everything
as positive: they even thought that their characteristic quality—which had prevented
them from falling into the defects of the other religious institutes—was the fact
of being a well-ordered reality. In reality, they had fallen into a trap far more
dangerous, that of the founder himself! We have progressed along this path, identifying
the problems related to the consequences of the behavior of the founder with respect
to the victims. We identified problems of a financial type. The Legionaries are not
as rich as you might think: the economic situation had deteriorated, both because
of the global financial crisis, and because of their institution. The loss of reputation
caused a loss of students at their schools, and therefore also in financial revenue.
Then there was the problem, above all, of the constitutions, and that is what we have
worked on most. The main issue was how to review them, particularly regarding some
key points. What were they? The clear distinction—clearer and more accurate—between
internal forum and external forum, and between sacramental forum and—let us say—disciplinary,
external forum. It was necessary, in particular, to reaffirm that authority is not
arbitrary, but must operate within a council. Their authority was also organized in
a way that was rather spread out and split in many parts, with many uncertain elements.
In short, we have reduced the problem to the redaction of Constitutions according
to the instructions of the [Second Vatican] Council, the post-Conciliar period and
the Code of Canon Law. We made our greatest effort regarding this very topic. Then
there was also the work needed to renew the leadership, which was very important.
At the beginning we let the superiors remain in their positions. This was a necessary
requirement, because those of us who came in could not operate and govern without
knowing the situation. It seemed to us more useful and effective to maintain the superiors,
but always under the control of our presence. Thus, we committed to being always present
in their general council meetings. They could run their government, but they could
not decide anything unless we were present. Thus, there has been this “osmosis” of
continuous dialogue. We have held meetings of the two councils at least once a week:
I had my council, and they had theirs. In this way, we started this discussion, where
we dealt with all the major problems: the issues regarding the Founder; formation
issues, issues regarding Regnum Christ. There were also disciplinary issues, regarding
the cases of some priests who were tainted by Church crimes. (Although there were
not very many cases, there have been some cases in the Legion, as has also been the
case in many other institutes.) This is the general framework under which we have
operated.
Q.—I believe that the Chapter now has two main tasks: to renew the
government through elections and to adopt the new constitutions. But if the work
of the constitutions has already been carried out, in way must the Chapter take action
in their regard?
A.—This topic as such involved us only in part, because it
had already been judged implicitly by the visitators and by other actions done later.
If they had judged that the institute were inseparable from the founder, there would
have been no discussion. Instead, by foreseeing that the congregation would move forward
along with its charism, they implicitly acknowledged that perhaps it already had a
valid charism. Nevertheless, it is also true that the Holy Father in the bull of appointment
spoke of reviewing the charism in depth, which we have tried to do. We have inserted
this charism into a larger reality, Regnum Christi, which already existed in the context
of the founder. We also have identified a charism for Regnum Christi, which is lived
out in different ways and according to various vocations: laity, consecrated lay persons
and religious priests. It seems to us that the identification is quite accurate. However,
following the Code of Canon Law, we have preferred—or at least I have preferred—to
speak of “patrimony” or “patrimony of the institute,” by which I mean the institutional
elements, rather than “charism,” since the latter is a somewhat problematic term.
If we think of the “charism,” as the initial moment of spiritual wellspring, we will
have difficulties. If, however, we think of the institutional aspects—that is of a
charism as it is given to the Church and approved by the Church—we can identify, for
example, “These are religious priests, laity, and consecrated lay persons who want
to experience the mystery of Jesus as he announces the kingdom, with spirituality
typical of the Kingship of Christ (Christ’s kingship, not from a triumphalist point
of view, but from the point of view of Jesus, who triumphs from the Cross triumphs),
with a very strong devotion to the Eucharist and to Mary and with apostolate (that
is, with the proclamation of the Kingdom of Christ, especially through work in universities
and higher education). If we think of all this, we feel that the “face,” the spirituality,
of the institute is quite clear and precise.
Q.—In this way, is your assessment
is that the majority of the Legion and Regnum Christi Movement in its essential aspects
has reacted positively, with cooperation in this journey of renewal, so that now you
can really have confidence? Or we are still only part of the way there…?
A.—I
would like to point out that our work has been predominantly with the superiors, because
this was the main task, the one that motivated all the discussion about the Legion
itself, which was centered on its founder, who was a superior—an absolute superior!
It is enough to affirm—as his former councilors affirm—that he would often act as
he pleased, without making use of his council! So the problem was precisely helping
the superiors to learn a form of government in which superiors are transparent, observant
of the Church’s norms and respectful of her rules. In this regard, since we could
not easily be present in all the territories, and since we had so many issues to deal
with, we opted to cooperate with the superiors, or rather, sought to have the superiors
cooperate with us so as to foster renewal, especially as regards the exercise of authority.
We were convinced that, once the Legion was equipped with worthy superiors, the journey
would be on its way and could make progress. I think that I can say that this has
been the case. Many internal tensions have also been overcome. Of course, we have
had such tensions, and they have not completely dissipated. Nevertheless, the vast
majority of Legionaries have resumed being a tight-knit group. It seems to me that
the Chapter begins auspiciously, because, although some will tend to be more open
and others more closed, the basic trend is to acceptance of the draft of the Constitutions,
as it is being presented. The key characteristic that must be emphasized is absolute
obedience to the Church. I remember writing a letter at the beginning of this process,
that if they kept this loyalty and obedience to the Church, the journey undertaken
could not fail to be a positive one. It seems to me that there actually was obedience
to the Church: I have never heard any grumbling against the authority of the Church,
nor against those of us who represented her. Of course, there were a few people, but
that is normal…. In this respect, I think we can hope that these constitutions will
actually be suited to their purpose, will accompany the renewal and will produces
good results. These constitutions, must, of course, then be approved by the Holy See,
once the General Chapter has produced them.
Q.—In this Chapter, will we address
the problems of the renewal of the Legion, or also of the entire Regnum Christi family,
which is very large?
A.—In this regard, I think we have had to trace a new
path, because before, Regnum Christi was like an extension of the Legion. Instead,
we have come to realize that each group has its own autonomy, identity and discipline.
However, together they form a “movement.” (Let’s call it a “movement,” since that
is the common parlance, even though the word “movement” is difficult to define, because
it is a complex group of people who want to be dedicated to Church within Regnum Christi,
according to each one’s vocation.) Therefore, there is a great unity among laity,
consecrated lay persons and religious priests, who are dedicated to working together
closely. These are things that still have to be defined further. It is however, also
important to point out that that what has, in a way, overwhelmed the Legion regarding
its scandals not touched this great Regnum Christi Movement. Thus, there is a big
“slice,” a great ecclesiastical reality that remains intact and has been serving the
Church, especially in the area of religious education and Catholic and Pontifical
universities. That is promising.
Q.—One last question. This case was initiated
with a mandate given by Pope Benedict XVI, and now, in the meantime, a change of pontificate
has taken place: now we have Pope Francis. Pope Francis has come to a full knowledge
of this affair. Do you feel that he is on the same page as you are? Is he well informed
about what is happening?
A.—In the three and a half years, I have met several
times with Pope Benedict XVI, and have made some specific reports. The last report,
however, was displaced, because Pope Benedict resigned soon after I delivered it.
When the new Pope was elected, I felt the need to submit this report to him again.
He immediately called me, and after a few days he wrote me a letter, in which he confirmed
me in my work and approved the program I presented, which was precisely the calendar
of dates for the General Chapter. He asked me to inform him regarding the process
of preparation for the Chapter. At the end of November, or early December, I presented
the preparation materials to the Holy Father. The Pope has been very attentive, very
close, and he rightly wants to follow the journey we are undertaking taking, because—and
these are his words—“he feels a great responsibility, as the Successor of Peter, to
accompany religious and consecrated life.”
Q.—With the General Chapter, a new
government is expected to be elected for the institute. We can already predict that,
if everything works out well, the mandate of the Delegate will be concluded. Is it
possible that the Delegate would then accompany the Legion further along its journey?
A.—The
mandate of the Delegate, provided by Pope Benedict XVI, did not have a time limit.
However, the term was linked to the celebration of the Extraordinary General Chapter.
Once the Extraordinary Chapter has been celebrated, the mandate will be over.Listen
to our report: